The 80s Court: Peter Cetera vs. Chicago

by Jason Gross @SockofFleagulls on January 16, 2012

in Music, The 80s

Does anybody really know what time it is?

No, it’s not “25 or 6 to 4.”

It’s time for another edition of the 80s Court, where we pit those ambitious lead singers against their former bands. In this edition, we’ll look back at one of the most successful American rock bands of all time. In terms of charts and sales, Chicago’s success is second only to the Beach Boys. For 45 years, they have entertained us as the self-proclaimed “rock and roll band with horns.” Four of the original seven members have been with Chicago since the beginning. But after 20 years, original member and lead singer Peter Cetera decided to move on from the demanding tour schedule and seek a solo career.

I recently had the opportunity to take Mrs. Wapner out for a night on the town, which included seeing Chicago live in concert. We had a great time and will add “the lowdown” to the evidence and my final decision. So let’s find out if the current members of Chicago should be singing “Wishing You Were Here” to Cetera or if “We Can Last Forever” is more appropriate. All rise as we call to order the 80s Court to hear…

The Case of the Broken Habit

The Background

In 1967, five Depaul University students came together to form a band. They included Lee Loughnane (trumpet), Terry Kath (guitar), Danny Seraphine (drums), trombonist James Pankow (trombone), and Walter Parazaider (saxophone). They recruited another student from Roosevelt University named Robert Lamm (keyboards) and called themselves The Big Thing. They achieved some local success as a Top 40 cover band with Kath and Lamm providing vocals. Bassist Peter Cetera, a member of The Exceptions at the time, heard a performance and was impressed with their sound of rock and roll mixed with a horn section. Cetera left The Exceptions soon after to join the band and fill their need for higher tenor vocals. Their mission was to mix all the sounds of the city of Chicago into a new sound.

The band moved to Los Angeles and signed with Columbia records in 1968. Shortly after, they changed the band’s name to Chicago Transit Authority and began working on their first album. Their self-titled debut, would be released in 1969 but wasn’t successful right away. After it’s release, the band shortened their name to Chicago under duress from the city’s actual transit authority who threatened with a lawsuit. It wouldn’t be until 1970’s Chicago II album that they would break into the top 10 on the US charts. Their initial success helped singles from their debut album to also enter into the top ten. Their first hit “Make Me Smile” would be almost twenty years old when their final top ten hit “What Kind of Man Would I Be?” would reach #5 in 1989.

Peter Cetera at a Chicago Cubs Game

In late 70s, Chicago reached its low point. Tragedy struck the band when Terry Kath accidentally shot and killed himself. Plus, with the rise of disco music, Chicago’s popularity was diminishing. In 1980, their long-time record company Columbia would buy out their remaining contract on the heels of their worst selling album. Cetera would release his first solo album in 1981, also with little success. But in 1982, he would help Chicago become “alive again” with the chart-topping hit “Hard To Say I’m Sorry.” It would be their second #1 hit and catapult them into tremendous success throughout the decade of the 80s. Cetera really became the “front man” of the band, with the popularity of MTV and singing lead on all their singles from 1982-85. The reenergized success pushed him into wanting another try at a solo album. After the Chicago 17 tour ended in May 1985, the band was ready to book the next tour and begin working on the next album. Cetera requested they take a break from touring so he could be with his family and record his solo album. The band essentially told him that they wouldn’t wait for him and Cetera parted ways in July 1985.

Chicago would hire bassist Jason Scheff, whose vocals were close to Cetera. They would also rely on a bigger presence from Bill Champlin, who had been collaborating with the group since Kath’s death. The two albums following Cetera’s exit (Chicago 18 & Chicago 19) would produce four Top 5 singles. Cetera did release his second solo album Solitude/Solitaire in 1986 with tremendous success this time, achieving back-to-back #1 hits. He would go on to release 6 more albums, but only two more singles would reach the top 40 on the mainstream chart. However, many singles would appear on the Adult Contemporary charts.

 

The Evidence

There is no mistaking the success of Chicago in the USA. Three simple stats are enough evidence:

  • 12 Top 10 albums (five in a row that went #1 from 1972-75)
  • 21 Top 10 singles from 1970-89
  • 18 albums certified platinum (one million in sales)

The real reason we are here is to find out how much we can say Cetera contributed to Chicago’s success and should the band have granted his wish to record a solo album and then continue on with the band. As far as “lead singer” goes, Cetera is the lone front man for 15 of Chicago’s 34 Top 40 singles. He also shared lead vocals on 7 other singles. As far as writing credits, Cetera is credited with writing only 18 songs and collaborative writing on 10 others on the 14 studio albums that were released while he was with the band (not including live/greatest hits albums.) On paper, it’s easy to see that Cetera’s vocals were his greatest contribution. That tells me that Cetera wasn’t necessarily the driving force behind the band, but he sure knew how to express what they wanted to communicate.

 

The Verdict

My decision rests on these factors. The first fact in this case is that Chicago is obviously more than just any one man. Over the course of the band’s impressive 43-year history, they’ve had 17 official members total. Having said that though, I give Cetera’s solo career an edge over Chicago since he left. He was able to transition very well with those two #1 hits right out of the gate.

I’m actually amazed that Chicago was able to keep the momentum that Cetera created in the early 80s for basically two more albums. I think a lot of that goes to the ability for Jason Scheff to mimic Cetera voice. I got to see Chicago perform live in late 2011. I was really impressed that they still put on an awesome show. They still play the Cetera hits too with Scheff on vocals, just like they’ve done since ’85. I do have to say though that Scheff’s voice is not what it used to be. Back in the day, he did a pretty good job “filling-in” that unique Cetera sound, but I still enjoyed the performance.

Finally, I’ve seen many criticisms of Cetera and that he “changed” the Chicago sound into a keyboard-heavy, ballad-only group in the 80s. And maybe that is one of the underlying reasons for why they eventually parted ways, but I look at it this way. He didn’t do much of the writing and with four decades under their belt, you are going to have some generational gaps. I love both their 70s and 80s discography, so it’s hard for me to say something like that. I understand the argument, but to me Cetera was the main reason Chicago had a career in the 80s. Would you have preferred they hadn’t released any music during the decade? I doubt many would.

This case is a tough call. If I’m focusing on the split (which is the goal of the court), then I think Chicago could have given Cetera a Phil Collins-like deal. If you look at how Genesis built off of Collins’ popularity as a solo artist in the early 80s, I think something could have been worked out. I also think Chicago’s Top 40 success would have carried into the 90s too, as Cetera’s career did. My decision in this case is for Cetera. Case closed!

 

Jason Gross is a child of the 80s and loves to subject his two sons to cartoons, TV, movies, and music from the decade. Currently promoting a M.A.S.K. live-action movie script (co-writer) and also enjoys freelance writing about 80s music & pop culture. Background includes radio broadcasting and B2B direct marketing. Follow Jason on Twitter@SockOfFleagulls and check out Rediscover the 80s!

 

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Joseph Tages January 16, 2012 at 11:00 am

I think Jason has brought a lot to the band and is widely considered a part of it. But the genius of Bill Champlin is the true heart of Chicago, and has been so since the early 80’s. I am saddened to have seen him go. For my generation, Chicago’s best era will be best remembered as the Cetera/Champlin years and Jason’s early years after Peter left. Peter’s solo career has been equally golden.

Jason Gross (@SockOfFleagulls) January 16, 2012 at 11:12 am

I agree Joseph. No disrespect meant to Jason Scheff, as he’s done a great job since 85. I really wish Chicago would have had their “Hell Freezes Over” moment like the Eagles and could’ve at least toured together with Cetera one last time. I was very excited when Cetera did the David Foster special on PBS. It’s been a rarity to hear him live over the last probably 15 years.

Corey Chapman January 18, 2012 at 10:00 am

I loved the Peter Cetera led years of Chicago and supported both sides when they went their separate ways. “18” is still one of my favorite albums of all time.

Will January 21, 2012 at 2:36 pm

Sustained! I, personally, have a problem with “front men” going solo UNLESS their solo work is a different style from that of the group. When Gwen Stefani left No Doubt, it was fine because she went in a stylistically different direction. In the cases of Phil Collins, Peter Cetera, and Steve Perry, their solo stuff sounds exactly like their group work. I know my 80s music trivia, and even I would need a gun to my head to determine the difference between a Chicago song and a Cetera song when one pops on the radio. In any case, I agree that Cetera was the driving force of Chicago, even though I’m sure the others are very nice guys.

S January 30, 2012 at 4:32 pm

I concur; Cetera “You’re the Inspiration” (or at least one of many) for Chicago’s success. Like a boombox held over your head in a quiet suburb (deja vu) Cetera’s resounding vocals would easily have sustained the group well into the 90’s…”Big Time” (sorry; couldn’t resist). I always enjoy Chicago with Cetera. Nice post.

Howard Decker January 30, 2012 at 9:37 pm

Jason is the best 80s music columnist I know of! I look forward to his submissions every week, and he is a huge asset to this site. Thank you very much for reading and commenting.

Roy July 15, 2013 at 10:43 pm

Chicago: Who Wrote What?

Written by Robert Lamm

01. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
02. Beginnings
03. Questions 67 & 68
04. Listen
05. Poem 58
06. South California Purples
07. Someday (August 29, 1968)
08. Poem For The People
09. Wake Up Sunshine
10. Fancy Colours
11. 25 Or 6 To 4
12. It Better End Soon
13. Sing A Mean Tune Kid
14. Loneliness Is Just A Word
15. I Don’t Want Your Money
16. Travel Suite
17. Mother
18. A Hit By Varese
19. All Is Well
20. Dialogue
21. While The City Sleeps
22. Saturday In The Park
23. State of the Union
24. Goodbye
25. Critic’s Choice
26. Darlin’ Dear
27. Something In This City Changes People
28. Hollywood
29. Rediscovery
30. Italian From New York
31. Hanky Panky
32. Life Saver
33. Woman Don’t Want To Love Me
34. Skinny Boy
35. Never Been In Love Before
36. Harry Truman
37. Long Time No See
38. Ain’t It Blue?
39. Another Rainy Day In New York City
40. Scrapbook
41. Gently I’ll Wake You
42. You Get It Up
43. Policeman
44. Vote For Me
45. Hot Streets
46. Love Was New
47. Paradise Alley
48. Reruns
49. A Song For Richard and His Friends
50. Bright Eyes
51. Paris
52. Manipulation
53. Upon Arrival
54. Thunder and Lightning
55. I’d Rather Be Rich
56. Doin’ Business
57. Soldier of Fortune
58. Hard To Say I’m Sorry/Get Away
59. We Can Stop the Hurtin’
60. Where We Begin
61. Good For Nothing
62. Forever
63. Over and Over
64. I Stand Up
65. One From The Heart
66. Only Time Can Heal the Wounded
67. Love Is Forever
68. All the Years
69. Plaid
70. Here With Me (Candle For the Dark)
71. The Pull
72. Sleeping In the Middle of the Bed
73. Back To You
74. 90 Degrees and Freezing
75. Come To Me, Do

Written by James Pankow

01. Someday (August 29, 1968)
02. Liberation
03. Movin’ In
04. Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon
05. Elegy
06. Now That You’ve Gone
07. Just You ‘N’ Me
08. What’s This World Comin’ To
09. Feelin’ Stronger Everyday
10. Aire
11. (I’ve Been) Searchin’ So Long
12. Mongonucleosis
13. Brand New Love Affair
14. Old Days
15. You Are On My Mind
16. Skin Tight
17. ‘Till The End of Time
18. Wish I Could Fly
19. Alive Again
20. Run Away
21. The American Dream
22. Live It Up
23. Bad Advice
24. Follow Me
25. What Can I Say
26. Only You
27. Once In A Lifetime
28. Free Flight
29. One More Day
30. God Save the Queen
31. Love Is Forever
32. Here With Me (Candle For the Dark)
33. Get On This
34. The Only One
35. Show Me A Sign

Written by Peter Cetera

01. Where Do We Go From Here?
02. What Else Can I Say?
03. Lowdown
04. Feelin’ Stronger Everyday
05. In Terms Of Two
06. Happy Man
07. Wishing You Were Here
08. Anyway You Want
09. Hideaway
10. Mama Mama
11. If You Leave Me Now
12. Baby, What A Big Surprise
13. Little Miss Lovin’
14. Gone Long Gone
15. No Tell Lover
16. Mama Take
17. Loser With A Broken Heart
18. Upon Arrival
19. Song For You
20. Where Did The Lovin’ Go?
21. Hold On
22. Overnight Café
23. Thunder and Lightning
24. Bad Advice
25. Rescue You
26. Chains
27. Hard To Say I’m Sorry/Get Away
28. Love Me Tomorrow
29. Stay the Night
30. Along Comes a Woman
31. Prima Donna
32. Remember the Feeling
33. You’re the Inspiration

Written by Terry Kath

01. Introduction
02. Free Form Guitar
03. The Road
04. In The Country
05. Prelude
06. A.M. Mourning
07. P.M. Mourning
08. Memories of Love
09. It Better End Soon
10. I Don’t Want Your Money
11. Travel Suite
12. An Hour In The Shower
13. Alma Mater
14. Jenny
15. Beyond All Our Sorrows
16. Song of the Evergreens
17. Byblos
18. ‘Til We Meet Again
19. Oh, Thank You Great Spirit
20. Sixth Sense
21. Once Or Twice
22. Hope For Love
23. Your Love’s An Attitude
24. Mississippi Delta City Blues
25. Takin’ It On Uptown

Written by Danny Seraphine

01. Travel Suite
02. Lowdown
03. Prelude To Aire
04. Aire
05. Devil’s Sweet
06. Take Me Back To Chicago
07. Prelude (Little One)
08. Little One
09. The Greatest Love On Earth
10. Take A Chance
11. Ain’t It Time
12. No Tell Lover
13. Show Me The Way
14. Street Player
15. Aloha Mama
16. Birthday Boy
17. Thunder and Lightning
18. Sonny Think Twice

Written by Lee Loughnane

01. Call On Me
02. Together Again
03. This Time
04. Take A Chance
05. No Tell Lover
06. Wndow Dreamin’
07. Stone of Sisyphus
08. Child’s Prayer
09. Rockin’ And Rollin’ On Christmas Day

Written by Walter Parazaider

01. It Better End Soon
02. Travel Suite
03. Aire
04. Devil’s Sweet
05. Window Dreamin’

Written by Laudir De Oliveira

01. Life Is What It Is

Written by Donnie Dacus

01. Aint It Time
02. Must Have Been Crazy
03. Closer To You

Written by Bill Champlin

01. Sonny Think Twice
02. Daddy’s Favorite Fool
03. We Can Stop the Hurtin’
04. Remember the Feeling
05. Please Hold On
06. It’s Alright
07. I Believe
08. Come In From the Night
09. Runaround
10. Somebody, Somewhere
11. Who Do You Love
12. Holdin On
13. Hearts In Trouble
14. Plaid
15. Cry For the Lost
16. The Show Must Go On
17. Bethlehem
18. Why Can’t We
19. Where Were You
20. Already Gone
21. Better

Written by Jason Scheff

01. Nothin’s Gonna Stop Us Now
02. We Can Last Forever
03. What Kind of Man Would I Be
04. Runaround
05. If It Were You
06. What Does It Take
07. God Save the Queen
08. Man to Woman
09. Bigger Than Elvis
10. Mah Jongg
11. Let’s Take A Lifetime
12. The Pull
13. King of Might Have Been
14. Caroline
15. Why Can’t We
16. Love Will Come Back
17. Long Lost Friend
18. 90 Degrees and Freezing
19. Where Were You

Written by DaWayne Bailey

01. Stone of Sisyphus
02. Get On This

Written by Keith Howland

01. Back To You

Roy July 15, 2013 at 10:44 pm

Chicago Songs Written By Peter Cetera

01. Where Do We Go From Here? (Chicago, 1970)
02. What Else Can I Say? (Chicago III, 1971)
03. In Terms Of Two (Chicago VI, 1973)
04. Happy Man (Chicago VII, 1974)
05. Wishing You Were Here (Chicago VII, 1974)
06. Anyway You Want (Chicago VIII, 1975)
07. Hideaway (Chicago VIII, 1975)
08. Mama Mama (Chicago X, 1976)
09. If You Leave Me Now (Chicago X, 1976)
10. Baby, What A Big Surprise (Chicago XI, 1977)
11. Little Miss Lovin’ (Hot Streets, 1978)
12. Gone Long Gone (Hot Streets, 1978)
13. Mama Take (Chicago 13, 1979)
14. Loser With A Broken Heart (Chicago 13, 1979)
15. Song For You (Chicago XIV, 1980)
16. Where Did The Lovin’ Go? (Chicago XIV, 1980)
17. Hold On (Chicago XIV, 1980)
18. Overnight Café (Chicago XIV, 1980)

Chicago Songs Co-Written By Peter Cetera

01. Lowdown (Chicago III, 1971)
02. Feelin’ Stronger Everyday (Chicago VI, 1973)
03. No Tell Lover (Hot Streets, 1978)
04. Upon Arrival (Chicago XIV, 1980)
05. Thunder and Lightning (Chicago XIV, 1980)
06. Bad Advice (Chicago 16, 1982)
07. Rescue You (Chicago 16, 1982)
08. Chains (Chicago 16, 1982)
09. Hard To Say I’m Sorry/Get Away (Chicago 16, 1982)
10. Love Me Tomorrow (Chicago 16, 1982)
11. Stay the Night (Chicago 17, 1984)
12. Along Comes a Woman (Chicago 17, 1984)
13. Prima Donna (Chicago 17, 1984)
14. Remember the Feeling (Chicago 17, 1984)
15. You’re the Inspiration (Chicago 17, 1984)

Peter Cetera Songs Written By Peter Cetera

01. Livin’ In The Limelight (Peter Cetera, 1981)
02. How Many Times (Peter Cetera, 1981)
03. Holy Moly (Peter Cetera, 1981)
04. Mona Mona (Peter Cetera, 1981)
05. On The Line (Peter Cetera, 1981)
06. Not Afraid To Cry (Peter Cetera, 1981)
07. Evil Eye (Peter Cetera, 1981)
08. Practical Man (Peter Cetera, 1981)
09. Ivy Covered Walls (Peter Cetera, 1981)

Peter Cetera Songs Co-Written By Peter Cetera

01. I Can Feel It (Peter Cetera, 1981)
02. Big Mistake (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
03. They Don’t Make ‘Em Like They Used To (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
04. Queen Of The Masquerade Ball (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
05. Solitude/Solitaire (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
06. Wake Up To Love (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
07. Daddy’s Girl (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
08. Glory Of Love (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
09. Only Love Knows Why (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
10. Best Of Times (One More Story, 1988)
11. One Good Woman (One More Story, 1988)
12. Peace Of Mind (One More Story, 1988)
13. Heaven Help This Lonely Man (One More Story, 1988)
14. Save Me (One More Story, 1988)
15. Body Language (There In The Dark) (One More Story, 1988)
16. You Never Listen To Me (One More Story, 1988)
17. Scheherazade (One More Story, 1988)
18. One More Story (One More Story, 1988)
19. Restless Heart (World Falling Down, 1992)
20. Even A Fool Can See (World Falling Down, 1992)
21. Wild Ways (World Falling Down, 1992)
22. World Falling Down (World Falling Down, 1992)
23. Where There’s No Tomorrow (World Falling Down, 1992)
24. The End Of Camelot (One Clear Voice, 1995)
25. Apple Of Your Daddy’s Eye (One Clear Voice, 1995)
26. Wanna Be There (One Clear Voice, 1995)
27. The Lucky Ones (One Clear Voice, 1995)
28. Still Getting Over You (One Clear Voice, 1995)
29. And I Think Of You (One Clear Voice, 1995)
30. She Doesn’t Need Me Anymore (You’re the Inspiration: A Collection, 1997)
31. Perfect World (Another Perfect World, 2001)
32. Feels Like Rain (Another Perfect World, 2001)
33. Have A Little Faith (Another Perfect World, 2001)
34. You Just Gotta Love Christmas (You Just Gotta Love Christmas, 2004)
35. Something That Santa Claus Left Behind (You Just Gotta Love Christmas, 2004)
36. Alone For The Holidays (You Just Gotta Love Christmas, 2004)

Songs Written By Peter Cetera For Other Artists

01. Making Love In The Afternoon (Karen Carpenter, 1979)

Songs Co-Written By Peter Cetera For Other Artists

01. I Stand Alone (Agnetha Faltskog, 1987)
02. Voices That Care (Voices That Care, 1991)

Roy July 15, 2013 at 11:57 pm

MY ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

The year was 1966, and the place was Chicago’s DePaul University. That was where a saxophone, clarinet, and flute player named Walter Parazaider got together with a drummer named Danny Seraphine, a guitar player and singer named Terry Kath, a trumpet player named Lee Loughnane, and a trombone player named James Pankow. Then in 1967, they met a piano player and a singer named Robert Lamm, from Chicago’s Roosevelt University, who was performing at the Belmont Lounge and Yogi’s Den in Chicago, and they asked him to join their band, which he did. The band would be called The Big Thing, and The Big Thing would play on the Midwest club circuit, building a following. An engagement during the second week of December 1967 proved to be an important gig. The Big Thing was an opening act at Barnaby’s in Chicago for a band called the Exceptions, which was the biggest club band in the Midwest, and they stuck around and listened to them. If The Big Thing had stayed late to see the Exceptions, one of the Exceptions had come early to see The Big Thing. That night, singer and bass guitar player Peter Cetera would leave the Exceptions and join The Big Thing as its seventh member, and big things were about to happen.

James William Guercio, who had been a DePaul University student of music as well, moved the band out to Los Angeles and he would become their manager and producer. The Big Thing would become The Chicago Transit Authority, and then simply, Chicago. The plan from the beginning was to start a horn centered Rock and Roll band, a Rock and Roll band with a horn section, a Rock and Roll band with horns that were an integral part of the music, a Rock and Roll band whose horn section formed the heart of the band, a Rock and Roll band with a horn section that was another lead voice dancing with the vocals. Chicago’s use of brass and woodwinds was like no other band. They took what is called a “melodic” approach to the horns rather than a “harmonic” approach. The horns actually acted as an additional vocal line, not just performing fill rifts. This is what was innovative about Chicago. Chicago was a rock ‘n’ roll band with horns, and a band way ahead of its time.

True to the need of the album-oriented rock format that launched them, the first four albums released by Chicago between 1969 and 1972 comprised three double albums and one quadruple album. That’s 10 albums in three years. Chicago’s next five albums: Chicago V, VI, VII, VIII, and IX all hit number one on the Billboard 200 Albums Chart. Chicago took America and the world by storm without the help of their faces. Total subjugation of individual ego to the collective good of the group was the rule in Chicago, even to the point of using a logo rather than a picture of the band on all of their album covers. Chicago refused to emphasize celebrity over the music. The group turned its anonymous, professional air into a virtue and a marketing strategy. They were the faceless band behind a logo. Chicago’s logo and its facelessness were very much in keeping with the style of the late ’60’s that valued group effort over individual ego. The group would come to be identified by a logo, and that logo, designed by Nick Fasciano, would become the most famous logo in Rock and Roll history. Some people though would offer a more sinister viewpoint of the logo, suggesting that management used the fact that nobody really knew what the members of Chicago really looked like as a reminder that nobody in the band was irreplaceable. Inspired by classical music, Chicago also chose to number most of their albums with Roman numerals instead of giving them full names.

In 1969, Chicago released their first album, and to this day, it is considered to be one of the greatest groundbreaking albums ever produced in the history of Rock and Roll; that album being The Chicago Transit Authority. It was a blend of jazz, classical, and straight-ahead rock and roll. It included an unheralded synthesis of electric guitar rock and roll to more deeply rooted jazz influences and arrangements. It was funky, melodic, emotive, and politically intoned. I’m guessing most people in this room tonight have never listened to The Chicago Transit Authority. You can not buy a Chicago greatest hits record and understand what I’m talking about, but there are so many people that I am speaking for tonight who know exactly what I’m talking about. When The Chicago Transit Authority was released in 1969, it seemed to be the perfect synthesis of everything that was diametrically opposed. It had smooth, lush harmonies, it had the distorted feedback-drenched pyrotechnic guitar works of Terry Kath, it had the Beatles-meet-Motown bass works of Peter Cetera, it had the Buddy Rich-meets-Mitch Mitchell drum works of Danny Seraphine, it had the churning Hammond organ and classical piano works of Robert Lamm, and it had those powerful horns of Walter Parazaider, Lee Loughnane, and James Pankow weaving in and out of the arrangements, ending up toe-to-toe with everything else, and it all worked. The dynamics were perfect. The Chicago Transit Authority seemed to have everything in the right place. The horn section, the vocalists, and the rhythm section were tight and unified. Individually, the members of Chicago were all outstanding on their respective instruments. Unlike many bands of the era that utilized session musicians for their recordings, Chicago was completely self-contained.

Chicago’s first 11 albums all showcased the impeccable musicianship of all the members of the band. At first, Chicago’s sound was a hard sell. Radio stations wouldn’t play their songs. Chicago’s music was not easily identifiable what it was. Chicago could not be pigeonholed. Their sound met with resistance. Record executives turned to Guercio, and Guercio edited a number of Chicago’s songs to make them shorter and more radio friendly. It was a compromise to be on the radio, and it was what it was. You can still listen to all of the band’s songs in their entirety on all the early Chicago albums; it’s the radio versions of the songs that are shorter. Basically, the songs were made shorter because (as Robert Lamm put it) Chicago’s music wasn’t for people with Attention Deficit Disorder. You know, because those are the people who listen to radio—people with A.D.D. As the ’70’s became the ’80’s and the demands of the music industry started to change, Chicago went looking for a new record label. During Chicago’s search for a new record company, one label said to them, “If you get rid of the horn section we’ll sign you,” to which Chicago responded, “Go fck yourself!” Asking Chicago to get rid of the horn section is like asking Elton John to get rid of the piano, as James Pankow once said. Chicago would go on to sign with a new record label, and the horns stayed, and the band played on for forty more years.

Question: What do you get when you mix the voice of Ray Charles with the voice and the guitar playing of Jimi Hendrix? The answer is Chicago’s first lead singer and lead guitarist, Terry Kath. Terry Kath had a very soulful quality to his voice and he was an outstanding, superb, deep and wicked virtuoso of a guitar player. One of the best examples of Terry Kath’s brilliant guitar playing can be heard on the hit single 25 Or 6 To 4 from Chicago’s second album. The song’s distinctive descending riff has been murdered by as many beginning guitarists as has been done with Deep Purple’s “Smoke on the Water,” Black Sabbath’s “Iron Man” and Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway to Heaven.” The terrifyingly brilliant guitar solo performed by Terry Kath-a mountain few players ever dare to climb-is what makes 25 Or 6 To 4 absolutely essential. It is one of the greatest moments in Rock history for the electric guitar. The song’s rather mystical title is just a reference to the time of day the song was written: 25 (or 26) minutes to 4 A.M. In a group known for its horns, it was Terry Kath’s hard-edged guitar and soulful vocals that kept the band rooted in rock and roll. Chicago’s line-up for such a large band was astonishingly stable, broken after eleven years and eleven albums only by the death of Terry Kath. After Terry Kath’s tragic death in 1978, Chicago could have gone on to produce albums under a different name, they could have dissolved their band completely with each member going off to do other musical projects, or they could have just left the music business altogether and done other things with their lives, but they didn’t. Chicago soldiered on for another forty years with the help of other notable lead rock guitarists, from Donnie Dacus and Chris Pinnick, to DaWayne Bailey and Keith Howland.

Chicago’s second lead singer was Robert Lamm—an ambitious composer and piano player whose songwriting talents made him the default leader of the band in the early years. The Robert Lamm-penned hits included, Beginnings, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, Questions 67 & 68, Saturday in the Park and of course the afore mentioned, 25 or 6 to 4. His clear baritone voice was an asset, as were his stylized keyboarding skills. The International press portrayed Robert Lamm as Chicago’s social conscience, and many of his best songs (Dialogue, Free, Harry Truman, State of the Union) all espoused political themes. Some of Robert Lamm’s compositions had a swing feel to them as well. Frank Sinatra could have handled Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, very well. Actually, as the story goes, it was Colour My World, a portion from trombonist James Pankow’s Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon that Frank Sinatra wanted to do a remake of. It never happened though because Frank Sinatra wanted James Pankow to write a few more verses for it, and James Pankow wouldn’t do it. You don’t mess with a classic, even if the chairman of the board himself asks you to. Other Chicago songs penned by James Pankow included the hits, Make Me Smile, Old Days, Just You ‘n’ Me, I’ve Been Searchin’ So Long, and Feelin’ Stronger Everyday. That last one, by the way, was written by James Pankow and Chicago’s original bass guitarist and third lead singer, Peter Cetera—the elastic tenor voice who was brought in to hit the high notes and keep up with the horn section, which the baritone voice of Robert Lamm and the gruff voice of Terry Kath couldn’t.

If you were to ask any Chicago fan or Rock music historian to name the first three Chicago songs they think of when they hear someone say the name Peter Cetera, they will all tell you the exact same thing—what else but the smoochadelic classics, If You Leave Me Now, from the 1976 Chicago X album, Baby, What A Big Surprise from the 1977 Chicago XI album, and Hard To Say I’m Sorry from the 1982 Chicago 16 album—the comeback album. The sexiest, the sweetest, the most distinctive tenor voice in all of Rock And Roll history belongs to Peter Cetera mthrfckrs! There is no comparison. “High above shimmering, echoing ballads and rock-solid choruses that aim for the bleachers, Cetera’s tenor voice soars like a bird in flight. If it doesn’t strike you deep in your heart, it’ll at least stick deep in your head.” That’s what an unknown source from Rolling Stone Magazine’s website once said about Peter Cetera. Well Peter, I would like to tell you tonight on behalf of all your fans that your voice has actually done both for us. Your voice has struck us deep in our hearts and it is stuck deep in our heads and that is where we want it and that is how we like it! In May of 1985, after 18 years with the band, and after the Chicago 17 album, Peter Cetera left Chicago for a solo career. Let’s just say that things got really ugly. It was like a divorce, as Peter would say, and that’s all I’m going to say about that because it’s none of my gddmn business! So, out walks Peter Cetera and in walks singer/songwriter and bass guitar player Jason Scheff, the son of Jerry Scheff, who was a bass guitar player for Elvis Presley. Jason Scheff has been with Chicago now for over 25 years. To tie this whole thing together, I have to take you back to 1981 because that was the year that singer/songwriter, keyboard player and guitarist, Bill Champlin, the lead singer of the late 60s and 70s psychedelic rock band, the Sons of Champlin, joined Chicago. During his 28 years with Chicago, Bill Champlin’s husky voice was the perfect complement to both, Peter Cetera and Jason Scheff.

And finally, Chicago’s original drummer; its backbone, Danny Seraphine. During his time with Chicago, Danny Seraphine played drums in a style that, ironically perhaps, can best be described as lyrical. To be a good drummer one must develop his own technique. Good timing and good taste is essential, but it is the technique that sets the truly great drummers apart from the rest. In 1973, Chicago brought in percussionist Laudir De Oliveira from Sergio Mendes. For seven years, Laudir De Oliveira added Latin flare to the band’s music and his percussion work was the perfect complement to the drum work of Danny Seraphine. After 25 years with the band, let’s just say a little more drama ensued, and Danny Seraphine was replaced by drummer Tris Imboden, who has been with Chicago now for over 25 years. And that folks was Chicago. 50 years, 50 albums, 5 number one albums, 130 million albums sold worldwide, 50 hits, and 3 number one songs later, Chicago is being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Now I am going to present you with information that must be stated! According to Billboard chart statistics, Chicago is second only to the Beach Boys as the most successful American Rock and Roll band of all time, in terms of both albums and singles. The number one charting Rock and Roll band of the 1970s was Chicago! The Top 4 charting Rock And Roll bands of all-time on both the Billboard 200 Albums Chart and the Billboard 100 Singles Chart just happen to be the same four bands on both lists, and this is how the lists read: Number 1 – The Beatles! Number 2 – The Rolling Stones! Number 3 – The Beach Boys! And at number 4, (all together now) Chicago! And in case you are wondering who’s at number five, it’s The Bee Gees! And that says it all right there folks! And up until tonight, Chicago was the only band on those lists who had not been inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame yet! And all I have left to say is that it’s about fckng time Chicago got inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame because this is Chicago mthrfckrs! This isn’t Boston or Kansas—if you know what I mean! So, without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, CHICAGO!!!

THE CHICAGO INDUCTEES

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Laudir De Oliveira (1973-1980: percussions; songwriter)
09. Donnie Dacus (1978-1980: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
10. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter)
11. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
12. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter)

POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO:

Bill Clinton, David Foster, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian “Ali” Campbell, Huey Lewis, Chris Isaak, Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon

ALTERNATE ENDING IF CHICAGO IS INDUCTED DURING A BARACK OBAMA PRESIDENCY

Now I am going to present you with information that must be stated! According to Billboard chart statistics, Chicago is second only to the Beach Boys as the most successful American Rock and Roll band of all time, in terms of both albums and singles. The number one charting Rock and Roll band of the 1970s was Chicago! The Top 4 charting Rock And Roll bands of all-time on both the Billboard 200 Albums Chart and the Billboard 100 Singles Chart just happen to be the same four bands on both lists, and this is how the lists read: Number 1 – The Beatles! Number 2 – The Rolling Stones! Number 3 – The Beach Boys! And at number 4, (all together now) Chicago! And in case you are wondering who’s at number five, it’s The Bee Gees! And that says it all right there folks! And up until tonight, Chicago was the only band on those lists who had not been inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame yet! And you know what’s funny? First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League’s Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama’s birth. Dustin Byfuglien becomes the first African-American hockey player in NHL history to win the Stanley Cup. Then, in 2013 the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during a Barack Obama presidency. Three more black hockey players win the Stanley Cup: Ray Emery, Jamal Mayers, and Johnny Oduya. Obama and Oduya both have five letters and they both begin with the letter O and end with the letter a. Obama and Oduya both have Kenyan ancestry. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 20??, during a Barack Obama presidency, but Chicago the band isn’t black, but they did play Rock and Roll, which stems from the blues, which is the music of black people as Jann Wenner said at the 2008 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony in reference to the induction of Little Walter. Walter is also the name of Chicago’s saxophone, clarinet and flute player—Walter Parazaider that is, who is a member of an elite group flute players in Rock history that includes Ray Thomas of the Moody Blues, Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull, and Peter Gabriel of Genesis. Well, you know what they say, things always happen in threes, and in this case it’s Barack Obama, the Chicago Blackhawks, and Chicago. And all I have left to say is that it’s about fckng time Chicago got inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame because this is Chicago mthrfckrs! This isn’t Boston or Kansas—if you know what I mean! So, without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, CHICAGO!!!

JUST SOME EXTRA INFO WITH A DIFFERENT ENDING WHICH WON’T BE USED IN THE SPEECH

First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League’s Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama’s birth. Dustin Byfuglien becomes the first African-American hockey player in NHL history to win the Stanley Cup. Then, in 2013 the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during a Barack Obama presidency. Three more black hockey players win the Stanley Cup: Ray Emery, Jamal Mayers, and Johnny Oduya. Obama and Oduya both have five letters and they both begin with the letter O and end with the letter a. Obama and Oduya both have Kenyan ancestry. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 20??, during a Barack Obama presidency, but Chicago the band isn’t black, but they did play Rock and Roll, which stems from the blues, which is the music of black people as Jann Wenner said at the 2008 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony in reference to the induction of Little Walter. Also, “Chicago” had seven letters and seven members until a game of rumored Russian Roulette. Then there were six, just like the six letters in “Barack”, who is an “ally” of Russia. Keeping one’s nuclear rivals close can be seen as a six-lettered gamble itself, and gambling was born of the Chicago mob scene. Seven Blackhawks on the ice would have been too many.

Roy July 16, 2013 at 6:00 am

http://bradenbost.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/seven-myths-about-the-band-chicago/

Seven Myths About the Band Chicago

MYTH #1: CHICAGO IS JUST AN ADULT CONTEMPORARY BAND FROM THE 80′S.

MYTH #2: PETER CETERA JOINED CHICAGO AND USED THEM TO LAUNCH HIS OWN SOLO CAREER.

MYTH #3: THEIR FIRST ALBUM, “CHICAGO TRANSIT AUTHORITY,” WAS SELF-TITLED.

MYTH #4: “25 OR 6 TO 4″ IS ABOUT DRUGS.

MYTH #5: GUITARIST TERRY KATH DIED WHILE PLAYING RUSSIAN ROULETTE.

MYTH #6: AFTER TERRY KATH’S DEATH, PETER CETERA TOOK CONTROL OF THE BAND AND TURNED THEM INTO THE BALLAD BAND THEY’RE KNOWN MOST FOR BEING.

MYTH #7: CHICAGO BROKE UP IN THE 80′S.

Darrell July 17, 2013 at 3:58 pm

I heard Robert Lamm interviewed on Dallas radio station WBAP in 1998. When asked about the possibility of a Cetera reunion concert, he replied, “Never say never.” I don’t know that he still holds that opinion, but if they want to raise some serious breast cancer charity money, they’ll do that. I bet it would yield 1000 times more money than laypeople singing “If You Leave Me Now” with the band. Or perhaps they could raise more money for charity if in their concert promotions they would promise to turn Mr. Scheff’s microphone off—either way would have my support. I will return to purchasing Chicago concert tickets exactly one day after Mr. Scheff finds the same door preceded by Mr. Champlin, or hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

FINLAND August 2, 2013 at 5:09 am

to bad guys arent so known in finland.. and havent been popular here.. it would had been nice to see terry kath in finland

FINLAND August 2, 2013 at 5:36 am

I WISHD MR CETERA CAME BACK SOME DAY TO CHICAGO. IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE HIM IN FINLAND OR IN SWEDEN. DENMARK OR POSSIBLY IN GERMANY

Roy August 19, 2013 at 4:43 am

80 SONGS WRITTEN BY PETER CETERA

Chicago Songs Written By Peter Cetera

01. Where Do We Go From Here? (Chicago, 1970)
02. What Else Can I Say? (Chicago III, 1971)
03. In Terms Of Two (Chicago VI, 1973)
04. Happy Man (Chicago VII, 1974)
05. Wishing You Were Here (Chicago VII, 1974)
06. Anyway You Want (Chicago VIII, 1975)
07. Hideaway (Chicago VIII, 1975)
08. Mama Mama (Chicago X, 1976)
09. If You Leave Me Now (Chicago X, 1976)
10. Baby, What A Big Surprise (Chicago XI, 1977)
11. Little Miss Lovin’ (Hot Streets, 1978)
12. Gone Long Gone (Hot Streets, 1978)
13. Mama Take (Chicago 13, 1979)
14. Loser With A Broken Heart (Chicago 13, 1979)
15. Song For You (Chicago XIV, 1980)
16. Where Did The Lovin’ Go? (Chicago XIV, 1980)
17. Hold On (Chicago XIV, 1980)
18. Overnight Café (Chicago XIV, 1980)

Chicago Songs Co-Written By Peter Cetera

01. Lowdown (Chicago III, 1971)
02. Feelin’ Stronger Everyday (Chicago VI, 1973)
03. No Tell Lover (Hot Streets, 1978)
04. Upon Arrival (Chicago XIV, 1980)
05. Thunder and Lightning (Chicago XIV, 1980)
06. Bad Advice (Chicago 16, 1982)
07. Rescue You (Chicago 16, 1982)
08. Chains (Chicago 16, 1982)
09. Hard To Say I’m Sorry/Get Away (Chicago 16, 1982)
10. Love Me Tomorrow (Chicago 16, 1982)
11. Stay the Night (Chicago 17, 1984)
12. Along Comes a Woman (Chicago 17, 1984)
13. Prima Donna (Chicago 17, 1984)
14. Remember the Feeling (Chicago 17, 1984)
15. You’re the Inspiration (Chicago 17, 1984)

Peter Cetera Songs Written By Peter Cetera

01. Livin’ In The Limelight (Peter Cetera, 1981)
02. How Many Times (Peter Cetera, 1981)
03. Holy Moly (Peter Cetera, 1981)
04. Mona Mona (Peter Cetera, 1981)
05. On The Line (Peter Cetera, 1981)
06. Not Afraid To Cry (Peter Cetera, 1981)
07. Evil Eye (Peter Cetera, 1981)
08. Practical Man (Peter Cetera, 1981)
09. Ivy Covered Walls (Peter Cetera, 1981)

Peter Cetera Songs Co-Written By Peter Cetera

01. I Can Feel It (Peter Cetera, 1981)
02. Big Mistake (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
03. They Don’t Make ‘Em Like They Used To (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
04. Queen Of The Masquerade Ball (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
05. Solitude/Solitaire (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
06. Wake Up To Love (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
07. Daddy’s Girl (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
08. Glory Of Love (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
09. Only Love Knows Why (Solitude/Solitaire, 1986)
10. Best Of Times (One More Story, 1988)
11. One Good Woman (One More Story, 1988)
12. Peace Of Mind (One More Story, 1988)
13. Heaven Help This Lonely Man (One More Story, 1988)
14. Save Me (One More Story, 1988)
15. Body Language (There In The Dark) (One More Story, 1988)
16. You Never Listen To Me (One More Story, 1988)
17. Scheherazade (One More Story, 1988)
18. One More Story (One More Story, 1988)
19. Restless Heart (World Falling Down, 1992)
20. Even A Fool Can See (World Falling Down, 1992)
21. World Falling Down (World Falling Down, 1992)
22. Where There’s No Tomorrow (World Falling Down, 1992)
23. The End Of Camelot (One Clear Voice, 1995)
24. Apple Of Your Daddy’s Eye (One Clear Voice, 1995)
25. Wanna Be There (One Clear Voice, 1995)
26. The Lucky Ones (One Clear Voice, 1995)
27. Still Getting Over You (One Clear Voice, 1995)
28. And I Think Of You (One Clear Voice, 1995)
29. She Doesn’t Need Me Anymore (You’re the Inspiration: A Collection, 1997)
30. Perfect World (Another Perfect World, 2001)
31. Feels Like Rain (Another Perfect World, 2001)
32. Have A Little Faith (Another Perfect World, 2001)
33. You Just Gotta Love Christmas (You Just Gotta Love Christmas, 2004)
34. Something That Santa Claus Left Behind (You Just Gotta Love Christmas, 2004)
35. Alone For The Holidays (You Just Gotta Love Christmas, 2004)

Songs Written By Peter Cetera For Other Artists

01. Making Love In The Afternoon (Karen Carpenter, 1979)

Songs Co-Written By Peter Cetera For Other Artists

01. I Stand Alone (Agnetha Faltskog, 1987)
02. Voices That Care (Voices That Care, 1991)

Ed December 16, 2016 at 1:40 pm

Just saw this. Someone didn’t research.

David Foster is the reason for the success of Chicago in the 80’s. Not Cetera or the band. Cetera was already in the band for 15 years and it wasn’t until David Foster produced them that they became what they were for that great decade.

Chicago was just another big band having a great time. But Foster did what he’s done for countless other artists, take them to another level.

Those two great #1 singles for Cetera when he left Chicago? Produced by Foster. The hits by Chicago after Cetera? Some produced by Foster.

David Foster isn’t called the Hitman for nothing.

Joe March 11, 2017 at 11:23 pm

“Jason Scheff, whose vocals were close to Cetera”

No, he wasn’t even close to Cetera. The simple fact is Chicago without Cetera is nowhere near the same band they were with him. Cetera had many great songs and duets after he left the band.

Alex February 14, 2018 at 11:58 pm

Chicago as an artistically credible rock band died with Terry Kath. The 80s Cetera and Scheff ballads are pure ear poison.

Linda June 26, 2018 at 8:26 pm

Totally agree! The band is a total shell of itself anymore. I don’t think even 70’S Cetera and Danny Seraphine returning could clean up this mess.

Tom September 1, 2018 at 5:10 pm

Yes, early Chicago was world class, but when Terry Kath died it became elevator music. The balance was lost.

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